Why do we not have recycling?

recyclingrocks · Why do we not have recycling?

It is 2009 - it is completely unacceptable that we don't have recycling. What is the deal?

Guest

Ask council. It’s not like people haven’t been trying. Bossert made his mind up a long time ago. He doesn’t think people will use it. Martin likes things the way they are. Gardner refused to support the PAYT/Recycling ordinance because it would have made all trash companies offer recycling. Johnson doesn’t want to buy the new truck. There seems to be lots of reasons council won’t support this.

Guest · Yes, recycling does rock and it's our responsibility!

All it takes is getting some neighbors together and going down to City Hall to tell them why we need recycling. Now that the bins are going away we are being forced to go to time consuming and very inconvenient means to simply do what is right for the environment. It really is their responsibility to provide us with a way to responsibily recycle. Every city does it. This is an embarrassment.

Give a Hoot

The person who brought it up should be a presetation togeter which is cost effective and present it to council.

No one is stopping you..I dare you to make a differance via actions.

Been There-Done That

The cost effectiveness has already been presented to council. The most expensive thing we could do is keep on doing what were are doing.

Most of council doesn't seem to give a hoot.

its me caryn

did you not read the paper that was left on your door.....
its because people were abusing it tossing in things that are not recyclables.... Hummmmmmm maybe they need to write it in something other then English..... and picture symbols....
its because of a few STUPID uncaring people who look for dumpster to toss their garbage in so they dont have to pay to have it picked up .....

between you me and the stick.......
theres a recycle bin in the parking lot at Jefferson and I have already informed the staff responsible for its care of the city's plan to stop recycling....
The dumpster at the school is a fund raiser for programs ( Key Club, Activities and other things not paid for by the district).... I for one plan on taking my recyclables to their bin as I know where the $$ is going...
The school get money for recycling... WHY didnt the city ?

Guest · recycling - a reality - not debate-able

maybe if you put the recycling dumpsters in the police or fire dept. parking lot people would think twice.
No matter. If Edgewater can't step up are there any commercial garbage disposal companies who offer recycling as part of their service? I'm tired of waiting for Edgewater to pull their...ah, weight.

Eco Nut · Recycling in Edgewater

I have watched people fill the bins with construction materials.Just yesterday I watched a pickup offload resteraunt garbage.Most of it raw. I have called the PD. I really think the police have enough to do without being the garbage police.The citizen based recyling committee presented an excellent plan for recycling in Edgewater.Your entire city council rejected the plan. They wouldnt want to ruin their perfect record of doing something productive for the city.Call your council people and ask why they are preventing recycling. A temporary solution would be to have a monitored site so that hazardous waste is no longer being dumped. That means someone to monitor what is being dumped. Maybe the city council members can step up and volunteer

not quite right · pro payt and recycling

The entire council did not reject the PAYT. This program and an ordinance for this program was presented at council by the Recycling Committee and Councilwoman Keegan in late June and early July. It had support of Keegan and McElhany. There are many who support this, but not enough on council at this time. Make sure when you vote this next election, if this issue is a priority to you, you get a clear understanding of who supports the PAYT/Recycling. Several financial issues are being researched by the CM at this time. PAYT/recycling has not been forgotten. More information is being gathered. It's on as a future agenda item. Make it clear to those running that it is an important issue. Vote accordingly.

Captain Planet · Get Real..

The council coming in is no different than the old. It has the potential to be worse. If jamie and laura are in support of recycling have them present a resolution to have a monitored site open two or three days a week. FUND IT TILL THE NEW YEAR.Then pass the blame or credit to the new council if they dont act. First they will never present a resolution. And if they did the other five will vote no. It's not going to happen. Edgewater city council represents nothing more than seven people doing their own thing with total disregard for those they represent.

Signed,

The PLANETEERS

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Guest · Re: pro payt and recycling

Guest · Seriously

Seriously, does anyone know if private disposal companies offer recycling? I have enough trouble with politicizing health care, I do not have the time to make garbage political too. If they can't get it done, they can't get it done. Anyone know of any alternatives?

Captain Planet · Private Recycling

Yes private companies do offer it. Read the wonderful proposal by the recycling committee. As for the high school. Dont do them any favors as they only accept newspapers.I am sure they would appreciate raw garbage and hazard waste in their bins. Once again the city council does zip and walks away.When will these clowns ever be held responsible????

Guest · Re: Seriously

caryn again

I spoke to the one of the Teachers who is in charge of the recycle program at Jefferson and she told me it is a single stream system NOT just newspapers..... They have a internal program at the school and they recycle as much of EVERYTHING as they can.( paper, plastic, glass metal). I told her I was going to be adding mine and she said no problem as long as I was a responsible recyclers....Im sure all the readers of the Stick are not any of the ones who were tossing the incorrect things into the city's dumpsters... ;o)

2manycans · Back to the public works garage?

Thanks Caryn.
Also, it used to be you could recycle at the public works garage, you had to separate things but at least there was someone around during the week. Is that still happening?

Guest

The public works recycling is being discontiuned as well. They were having the same problems as the dumpsters at 20th and Depew.

Were slowly improving

Bottom line is that although the City's human population is improving, there is still alot of human trash around here. Those people could care less where they dump thier garbage as long as it does not cost them. Every dumpster in this City is loaded with junk from people who don't pay for trash removal.

It ain't Cherry hills yet, but give us time.

Trashed On

A lot of what gets dumped here doesn't even come from Edgewater.

Guest

Maybe closing the drop-off locations that just anyone can get to will help. Now those out-of-towners will have to go find some place else to dump there trash.

Captain Planet · Pass The Buck Again...

Using Jefferson HS recycling is an invitation to close their program. How long do you think their recycling will continue with raw garbage and hazmat being dropped off.Its not the schools responsibility to provide recycling for Edgewater. The fact is: You have 5 members of the city council that dont give a damn. None of them take action on anything. Prefering to "study the proposal". If they wanted to continue recycling they would find a way.They will all pay lipservice to study the problem and nothing will get done. If you want recycling call your council people and get them to take action.

Just Plain Folks

The problem is mandatory VS voluntary. A happy medium has not yet been defined. We can't even get bottom line costs for what has been proposed. These are tough economic times and recycling is not cheap. Sorry but that is the reality. Folks do what they can. We can be legislated into the poor house and then nothing will get done.

Discouraged

Misinformation can be so hard to correct when people don’t want to hear the truth.

FACT is the above post is simply not true.

Cutting to the chase and trying to avoid repeatedly repeating all the information that the city has been presented, the bottom line is: recycling is less expensive than trash, and recycling has never been presented as something that citizens were required to participate in.

Don''t be discouraged :) · to clarify

Trash is more expensive for whom, the City or the resident or both?

Also, I see the recycling committee is meeting this week, perhaps interested citizens could attend with their questions about the program and have their concerns addressed. Not everyone attends City Council but at this meeting you could ask questions in an informal and informational setting. Let's dispel the rumors!

Guest · Re: to clarify

Don''t be discouraged :) · as they say..."Show me the money"

Guest · Re: as they say..."Show me the money"

Broken Record

SERA did show us the money....

49% of us would pay $12.70/month for (1) trash can
28% of us would pay $22.86/month for (2) trash can
13% of us would pay $33.02/month for (3) trash can
7% of us would pay $43.18/month for (4) trash can
3% of us would pay $53.33/month for (5) trash can

Broken Record

BTW - the above fees INCLUDE the cost of purchasing a new and updated trash truck.

Che

I prefer socialized trash pickup.

Guest

wait, there''s more

don't forget that along with the paid trash container(s), you get a 96 gallon recycling can. no charge.

Farmer Scott · A right or a privilege.

So, just how big is your can.

Nice figures, Broken Record. I only have a couple of points or questions regarding these figures. I thought the ultimate goal of the recycling/PAYT was to reduce the amount of waste in the landfills (let me now if this is wrong). So WHY, is the fee structure such that you get a price break for the amount of cans one has? Hmmm.
Secondly, it says that 49% of the residents would have one can. This begs the question...when was the last time someone drove the alleys? Even if everyone gets that third of a Subaru stationwagon recycle container, do you really believe that half the households in this City will have one can? Just asking?

What says you,
The Farmer,

PS. Whining really serves no purpose. In fact, it jerks the Farmers chain so much he tends to stop listening.

Broken Record · Re: A right or a privilege.

Guest

This seems like a very well thought out survey - why exactly did it run into such a brick wall at council?

Guest

Mr. Greenjeans · I'm OK with this...but

I have lots of leaves and garden waste. It could be composted but I don't have enough room in my yard to do that (most Edgewater yards are really small) if I bought into the payt program could we also find a place to compost the leaves we really need to pick up? Geez, most of the leaves I have to pick up come from my neighbors trees.

Broken Record

If you’re looking for one of the toughest problems (uh, I mean challenges) with the PAYT program, congratulations Mr. Greenjean, you nailed it. Yard waste - that’s a biggie.

Composting is a big job. It takes a lot of space and it stinks. Most communities want nothing to do with it. One of those Not In My Back Yard kind of things. Everyone wants the benefits but no one wants the compost piles.

Since Edgewater isn’t rolling in money, yard waste unfortunately is something we can’t even begin to deal with yet. Heck we can’t even keep regular recycling going. There are options for properly disposing of yard waste, but few are convenient. Most likely most of us here in Edgewater will be paying a little extra in the spring and the fall to have our yard waste hauled off the landfill with our trash.

It’s sad, but I’d hate the see the whole program get dumped because of yard waste.

Guest

Broken Record

There are several different ways this would work.

One ways is to offer citizens special pre-paid bags. You buy the bags in advance and as long as your extra trash, or yard waste, is in the special bag the trash collectors will pick it up.

Another is to have pre-paid tags that you attach to appropriately sized containers that you already own. If the container is the right size and it has a tag on it, then the trash guys empty your stuff and void the tag.

If you foresee an extended period of time when you need extra cans you could call Darlene and change your subscription for a little while.

Some have proposed pre-paid tags/bags for yard waste that would be sold at a special reduced rate but only be good for yard waste and not extra trash.

There are lots of options, but council isn’t moving this forward and no decisions have been made.

Guest

Broken Record

Some on council truly don’t believe in the worth/value of the program. Others are desperately trying to turn it into some political or campaign issue. Fact is, waste removal is a fundamental service that the city needs to provide its citizens. It is a matter of health, safety and welfare and should not be dragged down into the murk of Edgewater politics.

As citizens you should talk with friends and neighbors and use what ever means is most comfortable for you to let the city know this is important and that you demand better services. Emails, attending council, phone calls, and old fashion letters are all good. Some on council will disregard your comments if you don’t include your name and some contact information, so please consider identifying your self when you comment.

One of the best ways to follow what council is working on is to sign up for the Town Cryer. The Town Cryer is an email list that the city clerk uses to send out council agendas and work schedules, among other things. By following the work schedules and the agendas you will know if and when the topic will be on the council floor. To sign up, email the city clerk and ask to be added to the Town Cryer. This is her email address: cityclerk@edgewaterco.com

BUT... you don’t have to wait for the issue to come up on the agenda. Council hears public comment on ANY topic each Thursday at 7:00pm at City Hall. Show up. Show up with your friends. Make council hear you. It’s their job.

AND...don’t forget, council isn’t your only ear. We now have a city manager. HJ Stalf is also someone you should contact with your comments. This is his email address: hstalf@edgewaterco.com

Farmer Scott · A Farmers PHd.

Thank god, this information is coming from experts. They couldn't be wrong (that's a relief)? I thought I was up against that nagging Edgewater common sence.
As far as the Manager, he's only sitting on one strike with me. The Farmer, is willing to give this professional the benefit and has my given limited time to prove his worth. If, he should ever wonder why all the voices in his head are the same, my suggestion would be to talk with some other people.
I find it funny that (Broken Record) brings up the political/campaign issue. The recycling is being shut down NOW; 2 months before election...along as this isn't a political thing? (REALLY)
At this point it is very hard to not write the great American novel.
The Farmer would love to be a the meeting on Friday however, has a family and am on my way out of town for the Holiday.
Here are a couple of questions the committee might answer.
I am a good representative of the typical resident make-up of the City of Edgewater?
I currently have THREE trash cans and am struggling to make a mortgage payment (anyone on the committee) facing this issue?

I have stuck my neck out in support of the the members/friends of the recycling committee. I thought that these people would be able to seperate the need for recycling and apply it to the overall needs and realism of Edgewater.

When its just about recycling,
The Farmer

PS. Its not about Adam, Kent, Joan, Bill, Jamie or Laura. It is about those people that have made Edgewater what we know is Edgewater.

Talking Trash

So let me get the financials right on this deal.

Farmer Scott · smash it....put it here

I thought a straw hat, VERY STERN VOICE and an extremely sharp pitch fork was NASTY?

Call me,
The Farmer,

Talking Trash

OK??....................

"You're the Farmer."

but

anyway.

Guest

Guest · Re: A Farmers PHd.

Mr. Greenjeans · IGA?

Boy, someone is angry...

Well anyway... I am wondering. If we could join forces with Denver or Lakewood, cities who do have the resources to do leaf drops in autumn and spring clean up composting in spring. If we had an IGA with them and could drop off our leaves at their composting sites in exchange for ? something that would remove my major concern.
Mr. Stalf, are you listening? They would get great PR for helping out their little neighbor, there must be something we could do for them in exchange.
ps IGA, for those who don't know, is short for Intergovernmental Agreement, a great tool, we should try to use for a number of things.

Guest · Supply side economics

The Torch

Yeah and we should all have to wear hemp fiber clothing and read Mother Jones and High Times. How about we all go back to trash incenerators retrofitted with a smog control device. Ah the smell of burning leaves in the Fall.

2 Sides

Lets recycle a little bit of info here.

Mobster

Guest

Too bad people don't get this animated when gas prices go up.

gingerellie · recycling debate -- my two cents

Okay, I've been following this subject and now, as an ordinary citizen living in Edgewater, here are my thoughts. On the $12.50 per month for all as opposed to that amount for one can, I can certainly state our family would not!!! be able to survive on the one can policy. There are four adults and one adorable baby living under one roof. Heck, the dirty diaper trash would take up a third to one half the can, not leaving much room for paper trash and food trash, etc.. We tried doing a compost pile a while go and it just didn't work. There is no way I would try to do one now because of all the skunks and other wildlife in the area( and yes, I definitely know about the skunks -- I had to give my two dogs 4 cold water baths each on one Sunday about a month ago). I feel the same way about trying to recycle food waste unless it is in an animal proof container. I truly do like the idea of recycling if a workable, not too expensive plan, comes up. We really can't afford to pay much more. The statements above are simply meant as my opinions (except for the skunks--- they really do exist!). thanks for reading .

Broken Record · Re: A Farmers PHd.

Guest

Gas prices also go down. Yeah, all them evil people making a profit. That should be against the law. Nothing like a little social engineering to cure what ails you. I'm sure the wise guys at Waste Management will be pleased to know they head up the Trash Mafia.

If it ain''t broke

If it costs $12.50 now for unlimited (within reason) trash cans but a single trash can will cost $12.70 under this PAYT plan, how is anybody subsidizing anyone else under the current plan? I say raise the rates to $15.00 a month and leave it as it is.

Guest

This is Edgewater, it isn't Boulder. Thank God for little miracles. Council is doing something right.

Guest · Can't do it.

Well, if it isn't about recycling I agree with If It Ain't Broke. Payt has chosen the wrong time to introduce increased prices. If you aren't going to address the other needs of the community I see no good reason to change anything.

Guest

Believe it or not, you can address more than one thing at a time.

It's easy to see why this city is in the shape that it is.

Guest

If you have 4 adults and three cans, each adult is paying less than a single senior using one can. Almost half could pay $12.70 and you suggest they should pay $15. Makes no sense. I don’t see what isn’t fair about the plan. Besides we get recycling, which is more than we have right now.

It is broken. Fix it.

Guest · it's not a fix

until you figure out how to deal with yard waste you have an incomplete plan - fix it

?

Is the Recycling Commitee a City formed committee or are they a citizens issue committee? I have heard two stories on this. Anyone know? They certainly get a lot of postings out of City Hall and I believe they have used City resources and continue to do so. Can they do that if they are an issue committee?

Guest

Yeah those guy got to go. They aren't doing anyone any favors.

Guest · Play nice, please

The Recycling Committee has been working their fingers to the bone for a long, long time to bring something better to EW. Even if you don't agree with everything they have come up with they deserve your thanks for all the hard work, dedication and concern for their community. They function as an ad hoc committee, simply a group of people gathering together to try to solve a problem. They used to be what was known in the old days as a Mayor's committee but these days they are a group of concerned citizen's exercising their right to meet and work on a problem in their community and bring it to the attention of their elected and appointed officials. As a citizen of EW you can do that too. They don't use any City resources not readily available to anyone of us, to my knowledge. Although, they have been instrumental in convincing those who do hold the purse strings to research this problem.
I'm not a member of this group but I applaud their efforts.
Ask yourself: When was the last time YOU volunteered that much time and effort for the betterment of your community?

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JamieMac. · My 2 cents

Wow! It's been a while since I've visited this site. I'm glad to hear that the PAYT program is getting a voice. So I will also add in my 2 cents.
Yes, I fully support the PAYT program - for now.
Yes, I also - reluctantly- support removing the recycle bins. They were being abused and the city simply doesn't have the resources to monitor them 24/7. Although I did like the suggestion that they be opened during limited times and monitored. That may work if they could be surrounded by a 10 foot fence when they are closed.
Not being facetious, just realistic. It bears consideration.
And I think the recycling committee have earned their wings. They have worked so hard to bring the PAYT information to the city - all of us. They have listened to and tried their best to answer all the questions, comments and plain nasty remarks that have come up over this.
The fact is that, with or without the PAYT program, your trash bill is going to go up.
With or without the PAYT program, we are going to have to purchase a new trash truck.
With or without the PAYT program, not everyone will be happy about how trash services are handled.
Our city manager made a statement at this last council meeting that he will not be able to give us any information on the PAYT program until he has been able to get through the budget. Our city finances are currently being audited and the whole finance department is being scrutinized with a fine tooth comb. Let him do his job so he can give us the best possible information so we can make the best possible decision.
Nothing is going to happen until that information is in front of council. When it is, it will also be in front of everyone. Then, if you have comments, make them based on facts.
Jamie

RIP · Throwing out babies with bath water

Worry not about the Recycling Edgewater Committee. As of last night, due to the 'complaints' about the committee's structure both from citizens and council members, the REC no longer exists. Not by name, or as a committee of the mayor.

Sad day, when in America, our civic leaders are prhohibited from supporting task forces the benifit entire communities.

what a shame · Re: Throwing out babies with bath water

Guest · To the way back machine, Sherman...

Council has the ability to create citizen's committees designed to address a specific issue and report back to Council. IF and considering the treatment they have apparently received, that's a big IF, the former Recycling Committee desires to be formed under the new Charter they can certainly do that. I hope they do. They are not a "special interest group" they have been doing a hell of a job looking out for the interest of everyone in town, in fact everyone on the planet.
So bravo to the former Recycling Committee and don't let the small minds drag you down!
ps By taking away the recycling bins, I mean simply taking them away, you have created a lot of conflict in this community. I don't think you CAN simply take them away. People have been using them. Your trash volume is going to go way up and for those who refuse to dump their recycling in the garbage they now have to burn fossil fuel to go to Wheat Ridge or somewhere to recycle. I am suggesting it was irresponsible to just yank them. Jamie, you were right to be reluctant. The bins needed to be supervised and perhaps the hours needed to been shortened but you can't teach a community to recycle and then take away their ability to do so. That's when people start saying this town is bonkers, I don't want to live here. Bad move. Really bad move.

End Results

The bins were so contaminated they were probably going to the landfill anyway. Why should the city pay for that when we can all just put the stuff in our trash and let public works pick it up? It is much more convenient, and you don’t have to drive anywhere.

This is temporary, the manager is working on the numbers.

Guest

The whole recycling complaint comes from people who probably dumped less than five pounds of recyclable waste per year. More important things to complain about I'm sure.

Captain Planet · Captain Planet was right.....

The council represents at least five people that dont give a damn about this city. Planeteers power up your rings and make it right.And yeah let the charter let them reform. That could take a year.

Just a Citizen

I thought this wasn't about recycling and now it's all about recycling or maybe it's about something else. Jeez!
Council can indeed form a community committee:

Guest

No one has questioned council’s ability to form a committee. My question would be, why would this committee be needed?

Guest · ?

Define "need".

Need

According to the Charter cited above, "need" would be:

Guest · A defined need.

Since they have spent a considerable amount of time doing a lot of thinking about and conducting high quality research on the issue of waste disposal, I would think the need would be not to lose all that valuable information.
Edgewater is infamous for doing studies they never follow up on. If the former Recycling Committee has had an opportunity to present their findings and recommendations perhaps they are finished. However, given the feedback to the Payt Program posted here, it sounds to me like they (or someone) still has some work to do. We need to stop reinventing the wheel.

Guest · Re: A defined need.

Guest

The law, the Charter and various other irritating formalities involved in setting public policy. It is the lack of rules of procedure that cast a pale over their work even though the work itself may be viable. If it is worth doing, it is worth doing right.

Guest · what pale?

they did a good job, as a Mayor's committee, new charter, new rules but don't judge them under the new rules when they don't apply, jeez, I hope you aren't on the CRCC.

Guest

???????? Relevance?

Guest

Guest

That doesn't even make sense.
At any given time Council could have waved a magic wand and formed a Committee, Board or Commission composed of members from the former Mayors Committee for the purposes of that Mayors Committee. Why didn't they?
No one broke any laws. Just politics as usual.

Guest

Because it would have served no purpose other than politics?????

Guest · in response to ???????? Relevance?

I was under the impression that the recycling committee took some measure of pride in being outside of the rules and procedures of Council. They didn't want to be included and felt they could get more done that way. They got a lot done, no doubt about that. So, if the recycling committee, if they decide to continue to work together, as an ad hoc citizen's group focused on recycling and meeting at a coffee house, good for them! They can call themselves the recycling committee and they can lobby Council.

So, there are two issues here and they are separate.

1. The moment HJ stepped into the City Manager position the job description of the Mayor changed, and with it she lost the ability to have "Mayor's Committees", yet continued to allow the Recycling Committee access to City resources. That's one topic.
There is no City sanctioned Recycling Committee until or unless the Council decides to create one and define their purpose, which must be specific and short term and they must report to Council, as outlined by the new Charter.

Council still has a lot of work to do to enact all the transitional provisions of the new Charter and this is one of them.

2. Then there is the topic of recycling.

So, what have we learned?
We have learned the City Manager is looking into the waste disposal and recycling programs and will be making some recommendations.
We've learned there is still some confusion and dissension about the Payt program but we also learned more about the actual program. Facts.
In the meantime, there isn't anywhere in Edgewater to recycle which remains an unresolved problem.

Let's not get the recycling committee and the issue of recycling confused or intertwined.

I believe the original poster wanted to be able to recycle, we've digressed a lot here but that was the original topic of this thread.

Does that help?

I predict

The City Manager is overwhelmed as it is with years of ineffective government and mis-spending. I predict that he will last in this Circus of a town for about 1 1/2 years before he jumps ship because of you wingnuts.

Guest

Guest of 8:41am,

Thank you for putting it all into a proper perspective. Nice job. There is a lot of work ahead and we will find the right program for Edgewater, due in large part for the effort the Recycling Committee put into the issue. PAYT may or may not be the way to go but we have made the first steps in resolving the issue.
HJ? Three years. That's about average.

Resources to take action · worth repeating

Broken Record wrote:

Wink

A good old fashioned grassroots campaign. What fun.

It could even be a platform for one of the City Council Candidates.

Guest · Re: in response to ???????? Relevance?

Okay, I’ll admit I’m a jumping in a little late, but this one bothers me.

Also a Guest

The power of forming committees is specifically given, with limitations, to City Council in the Charter.

11.8 Committees as Distinct from Boards and Commissions. (1) Community Committees. By ordinance or resolution, the City Council may, for a defined purpose establish a community committee, task force, panel, working group, or other body, by whatever name it may be called, that is temporary in nature and that is comprised solely of volunteers who are not elected officials, officers, or employees of the City.
(a) Volunteer firefighters are not considered employees of the City and may, if otherwise qualified, serve on City community committees; board or commission members may also serve on community committees.
(b) Any such community committee, by whatever name it is called, is separate and distinct from a City board or commission formed under Article XI of this Charter in that it is temporary in nature and limited in purpose. (c) The ordinance or resolution establishing a community committee shall specify the qualifications, if any, needed for becoming a member of the committee and the process, if any, by which membership may occur and be recognized.
(2) Council sub-committees. Any Council sub-committee established by the City Council according to the process set forth in Section 3.7(2) of this Charter shall be separate and distinct from community committees authorized in Section 11.8(1) and City boards or commissions identified in this Article XI.

The Mayor may form a Citizens Committee for whatever purpose just like any other Citizen may form a committee but they would not have any government standing and certainly not have government resources allocated to them. Of course such organizations are subject to certain rules and regulations if they seek private or public funding.
The Charter is no more or less important to Edgewater than the Constitution of Colorado or of The United States of America. It is in essence our Articles of Incorporation. If you wish to understand the importance of a Home Rule Charter might I suggest the following link to Article 20 of, yep you guessed it, The Colorado Constitution.
http://www.celdf.org/HomeRule/Doe...20HomeRule/tabid/378/Default.aspx

Guest

Roll Eyes

Guest

thats only because we don't have a town square

Ed G Waters

We ain't got no damn hangin tree either but, that shouldn't stop the Mayor from formin up a posse an goin after some of them damn pesky citizen types. Hell yes!

Farmer Scott · Sit down before you fall down.

There you go again Edward. Fallin' into that big pile of political goo.

Remember, the topic. Its the writin' on the top of the page in BIG black letters.

You should be tellin' all our fine folks how the more you drink Colt 45's..the more cans you have..the more cans you have, the more money you make thus all the more Colt 45's you can buy.

Your Pal,
The Farmer

Why do we not have recycling?

Yes, recycling does rock and it's our responsibility!

recycling - a reality - not debate-able

Recycling in Edgewater

pro payt and recycling

Get Real..

Re: pro payt and recycling

Seriously

Private Recycling

Re: Seriously

Back to the public works garage?

Pass The Buck Again...

to clarify

Re: to clarify

as they say..."Show me the money"

Re: as they say..."Show me the money"

A right or a privilege.

Re: A right or a privilege.

I'm OK with this...but

A Farmers PHd.

smash it....put it here

Re: A Farmers PHd.

IGA?

Supply side economics

recycling debate -- my two cents

Re: A Farmers PHd.

Can't do it.

it's not a fix

Play nice, please

My 2 cents

Throwing out babies with bath water

Re: Throwing out babies with bath water

To the way back machine, Sherman...

Captain Planet was right.....

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A defined need.

Re: A defined need.

what pale?

in response to ???????? Relevance?

worth repeating

Re: in response to ???????? Relevance?

Sit down before you fall down.