Farmer Scott
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WHAT"S GOOD.I haven't heard to many good things let alone READ anything good things about EDGEWATER.
So, its kinda like the movie Apolo 13. What, do we have that's good???
While, its the Farmer; the question is quite legitimate.
At this point (I should be kissing my sister...).
This topic was made to actually dump on those that refuse to acknowledge the citizens.
Big trouble,
The Farmer
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Guest
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hmmm? do you want good things about edgewater? or do you want us to dump on each other here? clarify clarify clarify you seem to say both. don't want any misunderstandings here farmer 
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Farmer Scott
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Shoot here...missedDon't make it any clearer. I can't clear what is visible. November is coming. What, say you. All ears.
I'm serious this time,
no really,
The Farmer
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Farmer Scott
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My bad.OK, that was probably a little crass even by the Farmers standards.
Clarification: Its very difficult to find any positives on here and frankly I spend way to much time here. It seems like every forum or topic you goto the intention is generally good whether its a statement or a question but, in the blink of an eye turns to fingerpointing and dumping. So, I think maybe this thread should be both. If you have good things to say; say'em here and if you want to dump on the Council, the Mayor, pr or others maybe you could put that here as well; then stay on topic and reference What's Good.
The Farmer is just as guilty as the next poster and I doubt I can refain from a good dig or jab.
I'll start: How about the Public works dept. What a great bunch of individuals that work very hard and are as nice as they can be. I'll leave out the alley project as this was sub contracted but, might still be a sore spot for a few.
How about the Recycling Committee. Another group of hard working citizens. Who have basically gifted wrapped a plan for Councils review. They completely understand what they are doing.
They have taken the information from one of the famous studies and ran with it. It will only be as good as the information they were given to work with. That being said, why pay for a study if you don't intend to use it.
Good luck,
The Farmer
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Farmer Scott
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NotedWhen I originally made this thread I certainly thought it to be a TEST. Thank you Edgewater! You have proved yourselfs. What's good about Edgewater; can't make a single page on the stick but, mention Boards and Commissions and O'le...9 pages. WOW, I certainly don't feel smarter.
I would like to thank the wacky broad "Janette" and her followers for an outstanding job for Edgewater clean-up Day's. I think based on her passion this event was successful. Since when wasn't the clean-up days over at 10:30ish on Saturday?
Hopefully, the Ice Ranch will have over taken the current site. Knowing the current Jefferson Principal this should continue til we have no items deemed less than desirable.
Big thumbs up "Papp
and a KISS, 
The Farmer
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The Harlander
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Junk be goneBe advised! The Farmer don't like no JUNK in Edgewater! 
It's in the Charter or not, thanks to the Farmer  .
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Edgewater is Good
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What’s good around here are people like Farmer Scott. People that make us think once and awhile. You bring up a good point Farmer Scott. How sad that we can’t even fill a single page on the Stick with good stuff.
You’re also right as to the up coming elections. That’s a good thing too. Here’s a thought or two on the elections.
During the same time we all ran outta good things to say we had a lawyer at the helm of council. I think this is a big part of our problem. Not only was a legal mind set in charge of policy making, but unfortunately a few too many of the newest and youngest council member decided he was doing things right. I don’t think his approach was right.
There is a big difference between Judicial process and Legislative process. Judges are supposed to be ‘blind’ and just consider the facts. The law, not personal bias is key to good justice. That is why Lady Justice is blindfolded with the scales of justice balancing in her hand. Legislators on the other hand are supposed to bring their biased opinions into the discussion. Those opinions come from the environment and the people that legislators are representing. That is why senators from New York City can support ideas that senators from Montana oppose, and neither one of them is ‘wrong’. This is the idea behind “of the people, by the people and for the people”.
A consistent theme on the stick for some time now has been a feeling that our ‘representatives’ aren’t representing us. The ‘decision’ makers have become blinded to the voice of the people. Sure, rules and process are important but they are not the be-all, end-all. I look forward to the elections and the opportunity to choose representatives who understand the difference between knowing Robert’s Rules of Oder and knowing their constituents.
Thanks Farmer Scott, you made me think. Since the stick is mostly political when I couldn’t think of anything good to post on your thread I really had to sit back and ask my self why everything was so bad. And in the process I discovered something good. You, Farmer Scott, and the rest of my neighbors are good. The privilege of voting is good. In Edgewater it is pretty easy for regular every day people to make a difference. This really is a great little town. And thank gawd we have a vote.
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The Harlander
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Great post Edgewater is Good. The best thing about Edgewater is it's size. The Citizens do have a say. In a big City how many people feel they can call their City Councilperson, Mayor or City Manager? The people of the town are great, all be it, they like rumor and have a penchant for complaining but, hey were a small town. What do you expect? One thing I do know about Edgewater, in times of need, you always have a someone at your back. It could be a Fireman or just a neighbor down the street. People talking on the streets even though they come from opposite sides of town.
Yeah, all considered, life is good in Edgewater.
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Guest
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What's Good About Edgewater? Tenacity | Quote: | | Legislators on the other hand are supposed to bring their biased opinions into the discussion. Those opinions come from the environment and the people that legislators are representing. That is why senators from New York City can support ideas that senators from Montana oppose, and neither one of them is ‘wrong’. This is the idea behind “of the people, by the people and for the people”. |
I have faith in the citizens of this community. They may be quiet but they are paying attention. If their representatives don't listen they are gone in the next election. There is a tenacious loyalty to this community. People here are a part of something larger than themselves, their lives extend further than their front sidewalk. They refuse to be disenfranchized or marginalized. They know how to wait and how to pick their battles. They are seasoned citizens.
They vote their voice and they vote their inclusion. They will continue to demand and receive a vocal place at the table where the discussion is about "What is best for Edgewater".
I love the tenacity!
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One of 5500
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ListeningIt seems to me that there are about 7 - 10 people, both on these forums and going to council meetings regularly. There are about 5,500 people in the city of Edgewater.
Is it fair to say that those who go to council meetings and those who talk on the stick represent the other 5,490 people in Edgewater?
There are just about that many on council who were actually elected by the ones who don't show to council or post on the stick.
So, who is council NOT listening to?
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Guest
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Listening? Not so much...You are absolutely right. We should advertise the Talking Stick to every household in Edgewater so everyone can join in the conversation! Most people don't know it is here. Many listen in but don't post.
In a democracy, if you show up you get to participate. If you show up and speak in open community meetings your voice counts because that is the purpose of those meetings.
Are you saying otherwise?
That is why people who write to their Senators and Representatives have more influence on public policy than those who don't.
No one can read minds and elected officials are elected to represent their constituents, not presume to have permission to think for their constituents. Especially if they feel justified in ignoring the voices of those who are attempting to participate.
These same Edgewater citizens who fill in their ballots with check marks beside the names of people they know very little or nothing about and are never heard from again are not exactly giving you a huge mandate to only listen to yourself and the rest of Council either.
A good example is the fireworks issue. That ten people who showed up for Council in favor of the fireworks was the way many on Council justified their vote in favor of fireworks, right? It was according to how many people appeared at Council to voice their support. In this case, that number was about 10.
Besides, I believe the poster wrote:
| Quote: | | If their representatives don't listen they are gone in the next election. |
That, I believe, was an observation over time about what they liked about Edgewater.
It wasn't referring to your question | Quote: | | "So, who is council NOT listening to?" |
The answer to that question, of course, is if Council is not listening to those who are speaking out and they can not listen to those who are not speaking then they are listening to no one. Who else is there?
That is, besides themselves.
But I think this response may be off topic.
Did you have something you wanted to share about what is good about Edgewater?
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Pollyanna
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Here we go again, headed for the negative. Council listens to everybody who speaks up, whether it's 10 or all 5500.
I like all the pedestrian traffic. People feel free to walk in the streets of our little city. Lots of dogs and more children every day. I realy like it when the firemen and police wave. Have you noticed all the beautiful gardens throughout the city? We are a diverse community, all are welcome here. What's not to like about our town? 
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Guest
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debate and thoughtfulness is good too...and so is freedom of expression
good doesn't equal only happy, lalala positive, I think that may be another topic, or maybe you mis-named this topic, Pollyanna 
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Pollyanna
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I appreciate your critique but I also enjoy freedom of expression and interpretation. Isn't it wonderful that we are diverse enough that you and I can even enter into this conversation together under one thread, titled "What"s Good". I think so and, I'm willing to bet you do too in your heart.
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Guest
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Re: Listening | One of 5500 wrote: | It seems to me that there are about 7 - 10 people, both on these forums and going to council meetings regularly. There are about 5,500 people in the city of Edgewater.
Is it fair to say that those who go to council meetings and those who talk on the stick represent the other 5,490 people in Edgewater? |
Is it fair to say that those seven to ten people don’t talk to more neighbors than the seven on council? I think they do. I’ve heard council people say no one calls them. Do council people go out and engage the citizens? As I talk with neighbors none seem to have any contact with council people, but they do talk about conversations they had with people who go to meetings or are on other boards and commissions. I’ve even heard some say that they have emailed council people with no reply. I’ve also heard that when people do go to council they have heard the president say he didn’t even want to hear what the public had to say.
I think it is a good thing that there are at least 7-10 people who make a point of getting out and talking with people. 7-10 people who pay attention and are approachable.
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Pollyanna
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Wouldn't it be wonderful if those 7-10 people ran for Council and the Mayor? That would make Edgewater perfect.
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Grass Clippings
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Re: Listening | One of 5500 wrote: | | There are just about that many on council who were actually elected by the ones who don't show to council or post on the stick. |
Ya got me. I don’t understand that statement at all. Are you saying that once me and 5000 other people cast our vote we are supposed to just go away? That those ‘who were actually elected by the ones who don't show’ are some how above everyone else? Especially the 7-10 that do show?
Sorry, I tried to think of What”s Good about that post, but I just couldn’t do it. But I'm loving this rain! My lawn is finally green and my lawn mower even started this year.
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Pollyanna
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| Quote: | | My lawn is finally green and my lawn mower even started this year. |
That is wonderful news. I'm glad things are going well. It is a wonderful life.
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Guest
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July 3rd.Attending the party in my neighbors yard, meeting people not from here but who come here for the July 3rd. celebration.
Nice fireworks this year. In fact, really quite grand. I would say it qualifies as "what is good".
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good times
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fireworksthe fireworks were wonderful this year and it is good to see the city keeping with a well loved tradition! thanks to all the people who helped to make it happen. My family and I had a great time! Looking forward to it again next year!
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Farmer Scott
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something to read. Sorry, it's something good.A big thumbs up to the Edgewater Police and Fire Departments for National Night Out.
I attented with the Mrs. and Little Farmer. The Burgers and Dogs were terrific. The Mayor was there along with a couple of members of Council. Both the softball field and horseshoe pits were rocking which, made for "ya, had to be there scene".
A great time for community at the beginning of August.
Good Job Dan and Kevin,
The Farmer,
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Farmer Scott
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Look at how much "What's Good"1. CITY MANAGER
2. A Mayor - Who I don't need to vote for.
3. Seven Residents for five Council seats.
Take a closer look.
Edgewater is the definition of "CHANGE"
The Farmer reserves right to take all this back before Thanksgiving and after Christmas.
The Farmer
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Te Aria Nui
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Thanksgivinga song to share is good...
Words & Music by Bob Franke
It's so easy to dream of the days gone by
It's a hard thing to think of the times to come
But the grace to accept ev'ry moment as a gift
Is a gift that is given to some
Chorus:
What can you do with your days but work & hope
Let your dreams bind your work to your play
What can you do with each moment of your life
But love til you've loved it away
Love til you've loved it away
There are sorrows enough for the whole world's end
There are no guarantees but the grave
And the life that I live & the time I have spent
Are a treasure too precious to save
As it was so it is, as it is shall it be
And it shall be while lips that kiss have breath
Many waters indeed only nurture Love's seed
And its flower overshadows the power of death
©1982 Telephone Pole Music Publishing Co. (BMI)
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Ed G Waters
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What's good?
A green chili-turkey-sweet potato casserole made from Thanksgiving leftovers
An ice cold Colt
Synthetic oil in the crankcase
and a Zane Grey novel
Hell yes, life is good
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park
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I like concerts in the park and movies in the park.
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park II
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I like stage plays in the park, frisbee and picnic tables on the grass.
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