Black Friday

Guest · Black Friday

Target has more than doubled last years sales. Let's start running this place like a City instead of a welfare organization that is always out of cash. Bring on the City Manager and lets get rolling.

JamieMac. · commerce

Wonderful! How did you manage to find this out?
I like your spirit. We are a great city, but spirited or not, we are still pretty darned broke.
We have the ability to flourish. We have new businesses that should be better known. I have talked to so many people who do not know of most of the businesses on the new Sheridan strip.
I visited 3 of them yesterday and they were pretty empty of customers. The signage is not very prominant. You have to look in the windows to know which door you are at.
I do think that a good city manager will have some ideas on how to help our commerce along, but we also need to do more ourselves by letting our neighbors know about the new businesses. Invest in your own city with your word of mouth.

Guest

The site where the Ice Ranch is needs to be developed better. Use a Court Yard approach surrounded by businesses with a stage and good band each weekend. It's a winner Ive seen it in a place more depressed than this and it works. Right now we only utilize businesses during the day. We also need a nightime draw other than the local pubs. You might not agree but Table Steaks pulled in a lot of people who used Blockbuster, McDonalds, and Taco Bell. When they left, those other fast food places that stay open late took a big hit which is reflected in our revenue.

Guest

Hey, how about a bowling alley?? Just kidding. Although? What other evening- based activities pull in lots of people? A movie theater--small with one or two screens? What about another pool hall, no reason it has to be Table Steaks. It was a good draw so maybe another one would be, too. When we have a city manager, a deveoper can be approached with a multitule of ideas from our town folks. Keep thinking.

Guest

The city does not own that space anymore. And the Ice Ranch is still planning to build there. They are just getting set back because of the bank problems that ALL businesses have been set back by.

Guest

THE CITY WILL GET THE SPACE BACK NEXT YEAR. NO BANK IN THE NEAR FUTURE WILL FUND AN ICE RINK.

Guest

That's the spirit! So glad you could join us with your uplifting opinions.

Guest

We don't have to consider the Ice Ranch space as there are lots of empty spaces near Target. Also on 25th east of Sloans. The city does not own these spaces but there is no reason a city manager would not recommend business types if the citizens are up for suggesting various kinds of developments. Also the church on 26th and Lamar may still be for sale?

This is our way of giving some positive input. When the City Manager is hired, he or she should be very open to the citizens comments.

Times are tough financially but the months roll by and before we all know it, we will be back on target with the economy. I'm prepared for a difficult time with our economy, but it will not last, nothing ever does.

Out of the frozen and barren earth, spring flowers do rise.

Guest

I recommend a waffle house or Village Inn

Guest

Anyone know what happened to the Waffle House someone mentioned here earlier? Seems nobody at City Hall knows anything about it. That would be a great idea.
And what happened to the Boys Club buying that church? Anyone know?

Glass Half- full · Ice Ranch Reality Check

Let's consider this comment a little more as I have heard it repeated around town and I would like to examine it's validity further as it is going around town
The post stated:

Guest · glass 1/2 full

You are absolutely right, it will take time but it is well worth the wait. Our community needs and deserves this project. It will be a facility for everyone here as well as those in other communities who will come and will spend their money while they are here. Times will be good again and when that happens--while you are cheering the teams on from the stands, drinking a hot cocoa, watching from the sports bar with a burger and beer on your table, working out or meeting in the city rooms, our kids laughing as they are using and enjoying all the facilities with us--you will know it was worthwhile. Don't forget this also has a huge health benefit for all of us. Workouts on ice, workout facilities, kids classes ....stay stoked. We have always wanted a workout facility and now, in time we will have it in a package with sooooooooooooo much more.

Guest

Mmmmmm! I love hot cocoa!
I will keep thinking good thoughts for the ice rink. All you nay-sayers ....
Go suck a pickle!

Guest

Sloans has fried pickles for the nay-sayers, and a fully enclosed "outdoor" smoking section.

Guest

Why is the City out of money when it has more business revenue than at any time in EW History ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

maybe

because of PAST mayors and councils giving part of the sales tax back to the business..?????????
and when less people are shopping then less tax money is collected.

maybe not · maybe maybe not heck if I know

Past??? Serveral people on this council voted on the incentive packages for target and the bingo place. Besides some of something is better than all of nothing. The incentive packages are not a bad deal. Did you ever think that maybe business revenue isn’t enough and it is time for the citizens to start thinking about their contribution to the city. No one wanted to pay for a fire truck and now we won’t get one. No one wants to pay for a city soon we won’t have one.

Aghast! · Oh no! Not the "T" word!

You don't mean to imply we the people should actually pay taxes for what we need, do you? Shocking!
No, I'm actually teasing. I agree, it is time to anti up. Maybe if we pay more ourselves, for what we have we will have greater say in what we get!

JamieMac. · Make it so

Maybe not, you are absolutely dead on. We will never make enough to support this city if we can't think past sales taxes.
We have been spoiled and are starting to stink because of it.
It's time we took responsibility and paid for our city. Who else is going to do it?
We are always going to be a small city. And we are never going to be a Cherry Creek unless you want to see the homes torn down and turned into McMansions. Then it won't matter because most of us couldn't afford to live here.
We need to grow up and start taking care of ourselves. If you want top notch police and fire protection then vote for a mil levy increase. If you want to feel safe that your sewers aren't going to explode in the middle of the night then accept that we need to raise property taxes to pay for upgrading the system.
If you want to see decent recreation activities for ALL of our kids and community activities then use your outdoor voices and demand it. But be prepared to make hard choices in how our open space funds are spent and who you put in control. Get vocal! And don't let that intimidating group of you know who shut you up with a few sharp words.
Or challenge yourselves to do things without the city involvement. Form a group of people that are interested in the same things you are and figure out how to make it happen. Then do it.
You all own this city. Act like it. Act like you care. Act like you have ideas and dreams. As much as I love being on council (really, i do) and want to do the best I can for the people in this city, we can't do it all ourselves. In case some of you missed it, everyone on council is human and we have our limits. Boy do we have our limits!
Get creative. But stop complaining and then waiting for someone else to make it happen.

Guest

I thought in the ERA of Obama that the Govt was going to take care of everyone, and everyone I know actually believes that. I think we just need a professional to run things. I bet in the last 15 years our well intentioned City leaders wasted a million bucks on failed studies, kickbacks, bad deals, etc.

Guest

If you actually believe that Obama is going to take care of everyone in the way that you are implying, then I think you are probably exempt from any logical conversation when it comes to helping out Edgewater.
I'm really sorry that some of you are so bitter about Obama being the next president, but please, get over it and move on. WILL YA?

Guest

Choices

1) Continue our swirly down the loo
2) Increase taxes to subsidies our business revenues
3) Redevelop existing residential land into commercial property
4) Ask Obama for money - no joke - he his committed to infrastructure development - there should be grant opportunities coming up

Please add more....

Guest · Choices - cont.

Be ready to take advantage of federal infrastructure programs when they arrive by being certain one of the strongest skill sets our new City Manager brings to Edgewater is grant writing.
Grants are going to take us places we can't take ourselves and they are coming,
most significantly in infrastructure but in a number of other areas.
The single most pro-active thing we can do is to be ready to start applying for grants - that and yes, we need to get real and increase our taxes.
Redeveloping residential property to commercial uses seems like a long arduous process to me but I am pretty ignorant about it.
I understand how it would help long term but I don't see how we can "make it so" fast enough to help in the near term. Anyone want to enlighten me?

Guest · Choices? What choices?

Someone in "The City" must begin to develop relationships between our local schools, regional school boards and state congressional representatives to find out why our schools are so bad and what can be done to improve them. Property owners with young families move out because we have underperforming schools. It prevents other would-be property owners from moving in.

guest

That is so true. could that someone be you who looks into it?

Guest

It's simple

White - Hispanic or Black Trash Parents Create underacheving children

White - Hispanic or Black Parents who don't want to work and choose to live off of government sponsored welfare programs pass that legacy onto thier children.

Edgewater Breeds these people faster than cats. Why do you think Human Services wanted the 20th and depew site. This is where all thier clients live.

Wise up people if you can't quite grasp reality just drive down to King Soopers and look at the crowd.

REMOVE THE RACIST POST · REMOVE THE RACIST POST PLEASE

I would ask that this last one be removed.
It's insulting.

I resemble that remark · The child of white trash parents.

I was born and raised by white trash parents. They didn't read to me or take me to the dentist or anything. Sometimes we were on food stamps and often there was no oil for the oil burner to heat the house because Dad couldn't find work or he was drinking too much to find work. I was lucky to have a couple of aunts and uncles who knew how bad things were and got me into a couple of programs. It saved my life. I graduated from high school in the National Honor Society. I went to college and earned a degree. Were it not for a lot of caring professional people along the way I would not have even known how to take that path. I loved my parents in spite of their shortcomings and they loved me, they just didn't have everything they needed to help me sometimes. That didn't make them bad people. That didn't make us the animals you seem to be talking about. Shame on you. You are a self righteous, condescending, heartless person and I have met a lot of people like you in my lifetime. You can, respectfully, shove it.

I resemble that remark · ...but I digress

I believe the topic was how Edgewater might survive it's present economic woes...shall we continue?

The Harlander · Get Help

I have spent the last couple of months lurking on the Stick. I think, as a City, we need an intervention.

Guest

YOU MIGHT FIND ONE LITTLE NUT THAT GROWS INTO AN OAK BUT THE REST SHRIVEL WITHOUT CONSTANT CARE

Proud Resident · to Guest of 4:20 PM

Guest,
There are some hopeless cases in Edgewater, true - some of them are the ones you describe, and some are your kind - sanctimonious, sit-and-carp individuals who want to ghettoize those hapless/hopeless people you describe - but in someone else's back yard. Sorry, but I find your kind - NIMBY's* in poor neighborhoods - pathetic beyond belief.
Funny but factual, it actually takes relatively little money to affect the kids you're talking about, as long as there is an investment by individuals of their time to help their community and their neighbors.
Sadly and all too often, the people who take such an intolerant, unChristian attitude such as yours are people who call themselves Christians but are, in fact, not. They wrap their heads in the Old Testament and blind themselves to the New; they take the anger of Old Religion without the temperance of Christ's love, tolerance and forgiveness.
If you could just sit for a while and read the New Testament, comprehend and accept it, you might involve yourself in your community to its - and your - betterment, rather than, to paraphrase Dylan "sinking in the rat race mire, caring not to come up any higher but rather, drag us down in the hole that you're in".
Edgewater is poor, but proud; we're not selfish and ignorant - at least, not all of us.
In this holy time of year I'll throw some money in the Sally pot at KS in your name; I'll take an extra name off the Giving Tree in your name. And I'll help a needy child in your name because, my crippled friend, you can't do it yourself.

Peace on Earth, Good will to All

*Not In My Back Yard

Guest

I'm not a religious person, but AMEN that Proud Resident.
We have one pretty pathetic poster on here that cannot see past his own discontent. In this season of celebration - no matter how or what you celebrate, I leave you, our sad little poster, with one wish.
May the ghosts of past and present visit you and introduce you to the ghost of your future. And may they make such an impression on you as to change your future. Because, what I see right now is a pretty sad tomorrow.

Gloria

Even A Stream Needs Cleaned

Guest

I love your talk of faith and careing, but consider this. Everyone who has ever ran for office in this town or tried to serve has been trashed.

Our P&R director is a good example, you get what you pay for then trash a woman who you knew had no experience going in. I have never seen a bigger pack of disloyal wolves in my life who only care about thier own personal agendas.

God help the new City Manager. Everyone will want to get a piece of that flesh.

Save the water walker speech for Church where someone might believe it. God is watching and he's saying save yourself and trust no one.

Guest

Guest

The P&R director was hired in by the last mayor. Big mistake. But the current mayor has not shown any more common sense in keeping her. I do believe that her salary is plenty sufficient for a town our size and to get someone who knows how to do the job.
There is only one person who decides who is in that position. Currently, it is the mayor. When we get a city manager it will be their job. I am quite confident that we will get a 'real' professional in that position.

Black Friday

commerce

Ice Ranch Reality Check

glass 1/2 full

maybe maybe not heck if I know

Oh no! Not the "T" word!

Make it so

Choices - cont.

Choices? What choices?

REMOVE THE RACIST POST PLEASE

The child of white trash parents.

...but I digress

Get Help

to Guest of 4:20 PM