Beyond the Patriot Act

Patriot · Beyond the Patriot Act

We all should be concerned. Conservative and Liberal. This is very political and very dangerous. I would hope President Obama puts the brakes on this in a very public way.
http://michellemalkin.cachefly.ne...-rightwing-extremism-09-04-07.pdf

Unbelievable

George W. Bush was the worst President in American history...........till now.

Lone Wolf

I guess we Independents now have a mascot. The Lone Wolf. Awoooooooo!

Guest

Lord, make me an instrument of Thy peace;
where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury, pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
and where there is sadness, joy.
O Divine Master,
grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console;
to be understood, as to understand;
to be loved, as to love;
for it is in giving that we receive,
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned,
and it is in dying that we are born to Eternal Life.
Amen.

Gore was My President

You could be arrested for using Christian prayer on an open forum. It is quite obvious that you hate Muslims and are a racist. It is amazing that you wrote such a long post while clutching a Bible in one hand and gun in the other.

Gore was my President too · mislabeled and baffled LOL!

Disturbed after reading the above posts I simply thought I would offer another point of view - you know, one that spoke to our higher nature.
you can be arrested? really?

OK, how about this:

Martin Luther King's

"I Have A Dream""

I am happy to join with you today in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation.

Five score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we stand today, signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of Negro slaves who had been seared in the flames of withering injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of their captivity.

But one hundred years later, the Negro still is not free. One hundred years later, the life of the Negro is still sadly crippled by the manacles of segregation and the chains of discrimination. One hundred years later, the Negro lives on a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of material prosperity. One hundred years later, the Negro is still languishing in the corners of American society and finds himself an exile in his own land. So we have come here today to dramatize a shameful condition.

In a sense we have come to our nation's capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men, yes, black men as well as white men, would be guaranteed the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check which has come back marked "insufficient funds." But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt. We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the great vaults of opportunity of this nation. So we have come to cash this check — a check that will give us upon demand the riches of freedom and the security of justice. We have also come to this hallowed spot to remind America of the fierce urgency of now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to make real the promises of democracy. Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of segregation to the sunlit path of racial justice. Now is the time to lift our nation from the quick sands of racial injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood. Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God's children.

It would be fatal for the nation to overlook the urgency of the moment. This sweltering summer of the Negro's legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an invigorating autumn of freedom and equality. Nineteen sixty-three is not an end, but a beginning. Those who hope that the Negro needed to blow off steam and will now be content will have a rude awakening if the nation returns to business as usual. There will be neither rest nor tranquility in America until the Negro is granted his citizenship rights. The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of justice emerges.

But there is something that I must say to my people who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice. In the process of gaining our rightful place we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred.

We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force. The marvelous new militancy which has engulfed the Negro community must not lead us to a distrust of all white people, for many of our white brothers, as evidenced by their presence here today, have come to realize that their destiny is tied up with our destiny. They have come to realize that their freedom is inextricably bound to our freedom. We cannot walk alone.

As we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall always march ahead. We cannot turn back. There are those who are asking the devotees of civil rights, "When will you be satisfied?" We can never be satisfied as long as the Negro is the victim of the unspeakable horrors of police brutality. We can never be satisfied, as long as our bodies, heavy with the fatigue of travel, cannot gain lodging in the motels of the highways and the hotels of the cities. We cannot be satisfied as long as the Negro's basic mobility is from a smaller ghetto to a larger one. We can never be satisfied as long as our children are stripped of their selfhood and robbed of their dignity by signs stating "For Whites Only". We cannot be satisfied as long as a Negro in Mississippi cannot vote and a Negro in New York believes he has nothing for which to vote. No, no, we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until justice rolls down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream.

I am not unmindful that some of you have come here out of great trials and tribulations. Some of you have come fresh from narrow jail cells. Some of you have come from areas where your quest for freedom left you battered by the storms of persecution and staggered by the winds of police brutality. You have been the veterans of creative suffering. Continue to work with the faith that unearned suffering is redemptive.

Go back to Mississippi, go back to Alabama, go back to South Carolina, go back to Georgia, go back to Louisiana, go back to the slums and ghettos of our northern cities, knowing that somehow this situation can and will be changed. Let us not wallow in the valley of despair.

I say to you today, my friends, so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

I have a dream today.

I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of interposition and nullification; one day right there in Alabama, little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.

I have a dream today.

I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight, and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together.

This is our hope. This is the faith that I go back to the South with. With this faith we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. With this faith we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.

This will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with a new meaning, "My country, 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing. Land where my fathers died, land of the pilgrim's pride, from every mountainside, let freedom ring."

And if America is to be a great nation this must become true. So let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire. Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York. Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania!

Let freedom ring from the snowcapped Rockies of Colorado!

Let freedom ring from the curvaceous slopes of California!

But not only that; let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia!

Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee!

Let freedom ring from every hill and molehill of Mississippi. From every mountainside, let freedom ring.

And when this happens, when we allow freedom to ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, "Free at last! free at last! thank God Almighty, we are free at last!"

Flag

If you think your free in this County think again. No smoking in bars - no cell phone when driving - wear a seat belt - wear a helmet - in fact just in Colorado about 600 new laws are created each year which restrict freedom. It's time to fight back America.

C.Darwin

Smoking kills
Distracted drivers kill
Seat Belts save lives
Helmets save lives

I like your thinking! We need population controls that work. People should not only be allowed to kill them shelves (don’t forget to work with the churches on this) but they should be encouraged to do so. These laws are just a sham to keep as many people paying as much taxes as possible.

Mad

Population controls??? Hell, life kills. I prefer to have a choice and I sure as hell don't want some idiot elite running around the world appologizing for my country. Soldiers coming home from war should be treated like suspects of a crime not yet committed? Im mad as hell and I'm done with this nanny state BS. We spend more money on education but because of whacko like Ward Churchill are youth have no clue and cannot compete in the global market.
I went to the Tea Party today and I'm fired up.

Where were you??? · Mad

Just wondering if you were out protesting the 6 years and a trillion dollars for a war that never should have been fought??? Or do you only bitch when are tax dollars are spent in this country....

Patriot

Only a trillion dollars to overthrow a vicious dictator and establish a US presence in the midst of our enemies. Only a trillion dollars, heck Obama can blow seven times that much in the first couple of months in office and what do we have to show for it. More jobs? No. A stable economy? Not yet and maybe not ever. Less tax burden on the "working" middle class? More like a tax credit for the welfare queens. $15,000,000 alone earmarked for ACORN. No cohesive health care plan laid out. All the man does is complain about how hard the job is. We do have a First Dog though, of course Bo didn't come from a shelter as promised. He comes from a kennel that serves the Kennedys. Pesky little things, those promises.
I also was at the Tea Party and I have to tell you, as protest go, it was pretty peaceful. No property destruction, no threats on folks who disagreed. The cops seemed to be having a good time and even though the crowd called for him, the Governor hide out. We may not be the majority yet but the margin is slim and we know how to protest politely. And wouldn't you know it, Gunny Bob showed up. The event started off with the Pledge of Allegiance and the National Anthem, now that should really upset some you lefties and then we mentioned God, right there on the State Capitol steps. 6,000 True Patriots.

Flag

I like your style Patroit. I was also at the tea party and loved the chant to emphasize Under God. It sounds like about two million nationwide.

I'm ready for the next wave with uncle Ted on the guitar.

Guest

God Bless You (dare I say it), Flag. I was really moved by the Boy Scout Flag presented at the beginning and The Pledge. The National Anthem got a little screetchy but not everyone can do eight octaves. I loved the Republ's coming out on the balcony with Ritter backpedaling on the Pinnacle deal inside the State House.
Colorado had one of the most grass root (AstroTurf) showings of all the TP events. 6,000 plus according to the Denver Post and DPD.
We just may have ourselves a MOVEMENT. A deep in the bowls kind of MOVEMENT.
GOD (dare I say it) Bless America and God bless you Flag, you are a true Patriot.

Patriot

I are responsible for the previous post.

Vicious Dictator:patriot · Lied too

The reason given for fighting the Iraq war was WMD's. All proven to be a lie. Vicious Dictator... The same Dictator we supported and sold arms to in Iraq's war against Iran.. One of our good friends that we have in the area is Saudia Arabia.... There's a great democracy. How about the chinese ... I guess you have to talk nice when they own your country... But hey there a democracy too....As to the HSD document you all are crying about. TIMOTHY MCVEY was ex army from the first Iraq war... I imagine he's a hero of yours... His rhetoric at the time matches yours....

Patriot

I love your logic, because of McVey we must distrust all soldiers therefor all university students are suspect because of William Ayers. As far as Saudi Arabia goes, George Bush only walked hand in hand with the King. There was none of this bowing and hand kissing going on today. I am a bit miffed by your distain of Communist China though, where do you think Obama is going to finance his socialist agenda. Gee, I can't wait till Fidel and Raul come up for a White House sleep over in the Lincoln bedroom. I wonder what theGreat Appologist will do down in Old Mexico, give back Texas I suppose.

Huh?

Smile

Carter gave him guns, Clinton let him go and W. got him killed. Saddam said he couldn’t understand how we could change leadership every four years. He claimed it takes a life time to get the hang of running a country. Safe to say we must have confused the hell out him.

This thread has been interesting but maybe we need to lighten it up a bit. Don’t forget, we’re all neighbors around here - let’s be kind.

Patriot

Aw shucks, we was just funnin with one another. I'm sure Vicious Dictator:patriot dosn't wish me any ill will and fully supports my 1st amendment rights as I do his/hers.

God (dare I say it) bless America and Edgewater.

Smile vicious dictator... · History lesson

These are all easily confirmed FACTs....Jimmy Carter had nothing to do with arming the Iraqui's.... Ronald Reagan thru Iran Contra promised the Iranians that if they released the hostages after the election they would receive missles.This was brokered by Ollie North USMC. The profits from these sales went to fund a war against a democratically elected government in Nicarauga....Remember we were also arming the Iraquis... There's a really great picture of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Sadamn in 1983 calling him a great patriot for freedom..... Anyway Iran Contra ended in 1992 when President Bush pardoned five people found guilty by Americans of 12 different felonys.... Is a pattern being set for lying and deception among the right???? The president you are condeming has not been in office 100 days. Look at the past of the repub presidents and give him some time.....

Guest

A new political wave is coming. I have my guns - ammo - food and gas stored. I can and will take care of my own. Big govt creates weak people. No welfare here I will stand on my own.

Dictator Patriot · !!!!!!!!!!!!

Your right . That HSD was wrong. We dont have to fear the far right.....

Flag

You should not fear the right nor should you expect them to protect you. Please put all your faith in our government I'm sure they will handle all your needs.

Patriot

Lets see now...............Oh yes it was under Carter the Americans were taken hostage by Iran. Clinton.......that would be the first attempt to bring down the WTT, Black Hawk Down, the failed attempt to kill Bin Laden and the USS Cole. Obama............. less than 100 days and North Korea launches an ICBM and along with Iran fires up their nuclear weapons programs. Set to release known terrorist from Gitmo loose on American soil. Declares military veterans and all of conservative thinking Americans as right wing extremist.
Yeah, I'm feeling very safe and secure right now.

Dictator · Gas in Edgewater

Apparently no one cares that someone is stockpiling gasoline in edgewater... Damn that government. Law says I can store no more than five gallons outside of a car in a residential area... Its that damn Obama trying to take away our rights... Maybe someone should let the Volunteer fire department know. As to the creative history... Clinton was to blame for the COLE. Clinton was to blame for everything. So was Clinton to blame for the marine barracks bombing in 1983 when Reagan and Bush were at the helm??? Reagan had already constituted Iran contra. Iran was directly linked to the bombing. He used the staged release of the hostages to get elected. He promised.....The world and its issues are very complex. They require different approaches. But your answer sounds like nuke or start WW3 by taking out Iran and North Korea. Rush the Lush and Glenn Beck both say God Told them the world had no problems till Obama was elected....

Patriot

Dictator (can I call you Tatter Tot)

Dictator · Patriot Do you Know what Lying is???

Patriot,
You know Texas is going to secede from the union....I'll pay for the move as long as there's a fence to keep you in...You ignore where the right has put us and are calling for revolution. The HSD is dead on.... People that wont look at history and realize that there is a big picture and a complicated set of answers deserve the misery and paranoia they bring to themselves. AS TO STORING LARGE QUANTITIES OF GAS IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. IF YOUR TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND THE DANGER TO THE COMMUNITY... MY NICKNAME FOR YOU IS John P. Booth. Another supposed patriot that was going to set the country right.As for a forum with no names and an ability to say any crap that comes to mind....... No accountability

Alias Al

Patriot never said he was storing gas and I never read where he is asking for a revolution. If your so bothered by aliases, DICTATOR, why don't you use your real name. Oh I know, you have a valid reason, all the right wing extremist will come and get cha.

I just love it when far left liberals try to act intellegent. Give em hell Patriot.

Guest

We need more posters like the Patriot. I have hope for this city yet.

New Found Respect

Dictator has shown me the value of Patriot. Go get um Patriot!

Patriot

I have a confession to make. I do have six gallons of gas in three containers and 2 pounds of Miracle Grow. Somebody call DHS, I fit the PROFILE. I actually want a big, beautiful, expansive, weed and bug free Kentucky Blue Grass lawn this summer. I am a maniacal threat to humanity and Mother Earth. I am the epitome of Federal Publication IA-0257-09's description of a Right Wing Extremist. I own a gun, I have never had any of my children aborted, I love my flag and country and I respect those who have served our Great Nation in military service. I don't want Washington spending my hard earned tax dollars bailing out banks and automobile companies at my children's expense. And yes my friends, I believe in God and I believe that God blessed me and made me American. I honor the foreign born man or woman who goes through the process to enter our country to live the American Dream and I disdain those criminals who steal across our borders in the middle of the night to rob us of our jobs and identities. I am a True Patriot and now I am a suspect person as well.
That, Dictator, is the real subject of this thread. May you have a good evening, don't hurt yourself shoveling snow and may God (dare I say it) bless you.

Neighbor · ah com'on...

Farmer, everybody knows you can't afford wasting gasoline on blowing things up. You need it for your car.

Patriot

I don't know who The Farmer is but, don't lay my cross on him. I can stand on my own because I am a True Patriot. I also stand behind any person that calls themselves, The Farmer, for they are the salt of the Earth.
God (dare I say it?) bless America and all it's Farmers.

Patriot

Our President has extended a hand of friendship to our enemies. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran has struck back like a cobra http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/...ld/middle_east/article6132972.ece
In our own Hemisphere The Great Apologist endangers our Nation with submissive acceptance of radical gifts from Hugo Chavez
When does he learn that we have enemies? They do not conform to the very standards that we have imposed upon ourselves, however belatedly. Do you wish to have the sins of fathers you have never known, visited upon you?
Kimn Jong Il has the answer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Jong-il. Normal relationships with Cuba? Check it out http://www.ditext.com/gerassi/31.html .
Exactly what is it that we as Americans have to apologize for? Spanish American War? WWI? WWII? Korean War? Vietnam? Iraq I & II? Where were are self interest at any given time, including today, when we have not had more than enough resources to serve our national interest?
Beware America, beware. We have a Cobra in the fold and we will pay.

Flag

I agree with Dr. Michael Savage that we are swiftly headed for total government domination of all aspects of your lives. Sounds like communisim to me.

Guest

Beyond the Patriot Act

mislabeled and baffled LOL!

Mad

Lied too

History lesson

!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gas in Edgewater

Patriot Do you Know what Lying is???

ah com'on...