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and now our soldiers will never be safe from torture.
We, the country who sets the example, set the wrong example in the last administration. How can we not prosecute the torturers? Reading in the Economist the other day I learned since the USA tortured so did Britian, Germany, Autralia and France have a hand in this. It is tragic the Geneva Conventions have fallen. If we don't prosecute many young men and women will be in far more danger from now on.
It's a sad day.

Guest · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:45 am Post subject:

You could give those rag heads a million dollars and feed them for the rest of thier lives and they would still cut your head off because they hate you. Your just a typical weak liberal who will be one of the first to go because your incapable of caring for yourself.

Guest · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:49 pm Post subject: However

I am entitled to my opinion. I'll thank you not to respond to it. Just state your case and I'll state mine. I frankly don't care in the least what you think about what I said.

Patriot · Guest

I suppose what happened to 3,000 human lives on September 11, 2001 does not qualify as torture. What about all of the beheading of journalists? How about the Taliban throwing acid on little girls in Afghanistan who were on their way to school? Or the stoning death of a 15 year old rape victim?
I guess it's all in your perspective of what torture is. One thing is for sure, Obama has let the enemy know our interrogation methods so they may train for it in case of capture. That information is classified for a reason, regardless of whether we use torture or not. In my opinion, that constitutes an act of treason.

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You are so correct Patriot God Bless You. When 911 occurred I never thought America would forget those jumping from the trade center to keep from being burned to death. I was wrong and now it seems the liberal segment of our society is siding with those who would destroy us all. God help us defeat this administration.

Guest · Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:50 pm Post subject:

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Unfortunately we can not defeat the current , so called, administration. Obama is your and my dully elected President. What we can do is turn out the vote in 2010 to dethrone Queen Pelosi, Count Barney Frank and most of the rest of this ill gotten Congress. That will make it a little harder for the Messiah to push forward his socialist agenda. For that to happen the Republicans need to reestablish their roots with the conservative base and attract conservative Independents, such as myself, to their candidates.
I know these times are disheartening for True Patriots such as yourself but stay strong. It was a momentary lapse in judgement by the voters. Obama is losing his approval rating faster than a Disney star posing for Hustler. The word is that another Tea Party is planned for Independence Day, plan on being there. I'll post details as they come available.
Back on topic: That scum down in Gitmo are going to wish they were back in that island paradise when they have spent a night or two in Supermax. Since they are "enemy combatants" I think they should be sent to the military prison at Fort Leavenworth, that's a fun place. There are worse fates than a little water boarding in our Federal Prison system.

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I was the last poster. Talking about the Geneva Convention here is a news break from the Associated Press dated April 22, 2009:

The Obama administration has asked a federal judge to throw out a lawsuit against Iran filed by Americans held hostage at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran 30 years ago.
The request comes in a $6.6 billion class-action lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in Washington. Fifty-two American diplomats and military officials were held captive for more than a year at the end of Jimmy Carter's presidency by a group of Islamist students who supported the Iranian revolution.
The hostages were released on Jan. 20, 1981, just minutes after Ronald Reagan was sworn in as the new president.
In court papers filed Tuesday night without any announcement, the Justice Department argued that the agreement to release the hostages, known as the Algiers Accords, precluded lawsuits against Iran.
A similar lawsuit brought by the Iranian hostages was dismissed in 2000 after the government successfully argued it was banned by the Algiers Accords. The hostages argue that legislation passed by Congress last year and signed into law by President George W. Bush gives them the right to bring private lawsuits.
But the Justice Department argued that the law does not mention the Algiers Accords, much less explicitly repeal them.
"The gratitude of the United States for the service and dedication of these brave individuals cannot be overstated, nor can the suffering and abuse they endured on behalf of this country be exaggerated; these matters are beyond dispute," the Justice Department wrote in its filing.
The hostages argue that Iran supported their confinement and abuse, with visits from government officials, stays in government prisons and buildings and threats of trial in Iranian courts. The lawsuit says current Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was one of their interrogators.
The lawsuit says the hostages were tortured, beaten sometimes until they lost consciousness and kept in fear of their lives, at times even lined up in front of marksmen locking their guns. It says they were imprisoned without adequate food, clothing or medical care, blindfolded with their hands tied, interrogated for hours at a time and kept in isolation for months at a time.
The original plaintiffs are three of the hostages -- Charles Scott of Jonesboro, Ga., David Roeder of Alexandria, Va., and Don Sharer of Mansfield, Texas -- and the wife and daughter of another hostage, Barry Rosen, from New York City.
These were diplomats taken from an American embassy. And somebody is worried about a little water boarding of known terrorist.