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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:31 am    Post subject: On Edge Reply with quote

At last nights Council meeting Tex Edge brought up several issues regarding our City Manager.  The one that stuck in my mind was his private meetings he holds with each individual Council person.  They sit around and shoot the breeze an stuff.  In, Mayor Pro tem, Kent Johnson’s case they spend a few minutes on City business and then take up the rest of the hour talking baseball.  That’s what Johnson himself said last night.  That’s some pretty expensive baseball rap there Councilman.  The City Manager is on every agenda where he can speak to Council as a whole before the public.  If an individual Council person needs to speak to the Manager on a specific issue, then they should call the manager.  The Manager setting aside 1/5 of a forty hour work week to chat with individual Council members is non productive and a waste of time.
In the Managers comments to Council last night he spent most of his time talking about ERA issues.  Gee I thought that was his part time job, you know, so he could make a car payment or something.  Does the guy spend any time doing what he was hired to do?  Oh well, it must just be me.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another thought came to mind.  Johnson said that at his meetings with the Manager the door was open.  Am I to take that as an open invitation in the name of transparencey?  How about it Mister Manager, are you going to to post the times a place where you hold these individual Council-Manager meetings?  Are they really open to the public?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya know, I am getting really weary of this ranting on about our city manager. You seem to have a real grudge with him. Get over it, will you?
You are really getting pathetic. What is your point? And if you have one, please get to it.
That ridiculous display at council last night was completely unwarranted. Again, what was your point? To attempt to humiliate our new city manager? I think he has a lot more going for him than to allow your petty little rants to turn him into a whimpering ball of mush.
Let him do his job and quit trying to undermine everything he does.
Sometimes politics is just that. Politics. Again, what is your point?
If you really care about the people in this city then please quit your grandstanding and show some support for the good things that are happening.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:

That ridiculous display at council last night was completely unwarranted.


Oh oh oh, what happened? More details please!!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First , I did not post any of the above!

Second, My words were of caution for this and future Councils and had examples of why I had these concerns.  

Third, I did not expect all to understand, some did some did not.  All I can do is try.  The fact changes were made, shows some of  my concerns were heard by fellow council members.  All I could hope for.  

Trying to protect Councils rights and those of the citizen should be what its about.  Its not grandstanding.

And I always sign my name!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did post the original post. Tex, it was not about you or what you said last night.
You have a right as a councilman to state your opinions. And every citizen has that same right. This particular citizen abuses the hell out of that right and seems to want nothing more than to cause trouble for anyone she has a grudge against.
It gets really old.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and seems to want nothing more than to cause trouble for anyone she has a grudge against
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First of all, how do you know I'm a "she".   Last time I checked I don't meet that qualification.
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Let him do his job and quit trying to undermine everything he does.

That's the very issue I'm addressing.  I don't complain about "everything" the City Manager does but, I have problems with this particular issue.  In other words I believe in the seperation of powers.  Whiskey and cigars are not a necessary component of smoke filled back rooms.  If transparency is a problem, then I am wrong and I appologize.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seldom post here but I do read the Talking Stick.  I assume the "she" mentioned above refers to me.  I have never complained about  nor do I have any issues with HJ Stalf and the job he is doing as our City Manager.  I have had issues with executive sessions in the past and have stood up in the public forum and made my feelings known.
Last night, I addressed the Council about a letter the Mayor sent out in which she clearly stated she was forming a committee.  This is a violation of our City Charter Article 11.8.  I also stated the Mayor had other options to achieve the same goal more fitting her position as the face of our community.  I believe if you see a problem, offer a solution, which is exactly what I did.
I do believe in our new charter and certainly don't believe I nit pic.  Council has repeatedly stated they want more citizens involvement and input and I agree with that.

Thank you
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:04 pm    Post subject: Openness Reply with quote

I am watching this thread.
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And we are watching you, with expectations.


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